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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:17 pm

YES. I have been toying with that idea for some time now and now that you mention it, we SHOULD set that up as part of the Dragon history. Only, I would rather that the battle took place even before the rise of the Tiann empire.

My reasoning is that I think it would be interesting if there were several subterranean 'weirs' through-out the world and they would have split off from the original two Weirs, that fought during the Great Dragon War. After the war, the to great Weirs were dispersed and from them formed other groups who became distinct societies. This way we can have many other weirs around that are yet slumbering, while currently what has happened is the Pargamoot Weir has awoken and declared war on man, and another 'good' weir in Tiann have awoken as well.

I am not sure yet what the reason should be. But the Tiann Dragons are either not strong enough or will not wage war against the malevolent clan. Perhaps, they are waiting for other Dragons to awake or maybe a sign, like the rise of ancient legend of a man who speaks their tongue who will unite the Weirs.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:36 pm

I agree we should and I realy like the idea of them waiting to awake, waiting for a sign, like the rise of ancient legend of a man who speaks their tongue who will unite the Weirs. To lead them and the humans against the Pargamoot Weir who has awoken and declared war on man.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:52 pm

Here's another little tidbit for you to digest, what I propose is that we create a plausible reason of why Elija, being a 'Human' can do this. What if Elija, is in fact not Human? He is an orphan, and though his parents were killed during the Dragon Assault, who is to say that they were his real parents. What if they found him and his home was actually targeted to specifically destroy him, because Elija is in fact Dragon-kin. A unique creation, the only one of his kind, a Human born of egg, a creature that a good and noble Dragon created before her end.

This ancient Queen of the Dragons could have created the egg long ago, but kept it far in the north it's life suspended in the frozen wastelands. Through a series of events the egg could have been discovered, perhaps by his parents and upon it's hatching fell in love with the child that others would have viewed as an abomination.

The Queen Dragon, could have created the Human-Dragon Hybrid for one purpose. To forever solidify the bond between Humans and Dragons and so the 'evil' Dragons and other Dragon-kin would no doubt want to destroy him.

How does that sit with you?

It's a little 'V' (by the way i predicted that remake. Hollywood is so predictable now. It's sad. Or I'm just old and trends are now more apparent to me. I'm gonna go with the predictability, myself Smile ) but I think it would really tie in to the story really well.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:58 pm

I was even thinking that as Elija matures, he could undergo some slight changes that would reveal his true nature.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:17 am

I like that idea ....... maybe the change would be noticable in his eyes ..... they change when he goes in a trance or perhaps what was believed to be a birth mark on his hand or chest become more evident? Either as he grows or when he goes into a trance like state. Something sutle.

That would also explain why the Takun were in the sewers and why they attacked Fort Glory.
They were in reality looking for Elija.

Perhaps the secret of the creation and the mark to identify this human hybrid could be revealved in one of the scrolls and Elija discovers it. He becomes more withdrawn distancing himself from Sam and the others as he struggles with the fact that he considers himself a freak. Sam, the other shoddy end kids and primarily Colleen are the ones that ultimately help him realize he his not and has a higher purpose. The shoddy end kids become his warriors.
Although we have time to consider this yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:17 am

What are your thoughts RP?
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:52 am

I LIKE how all this is developing. And I like the idea of Elija being human born of Dragon. It would certainly tie into the idea of him being able to communicate with the dragons when he finally learns how.

As for the mark, I would make it someplace others can't readily see. I was thinking on his chest, on the left side where his heart is. I'm thinking it would resemble something that looked like the silhouette of a dragon and in the center the silhouette of a man. Or something like that.

The others of the Coven would somehow be able to pick up on his difference but not be able to tell what it was. As he matures and perticularly when he reaches puberty things will significantly begin to change for him. And I would say, since he is Dragon hybrid, when he reaches puberty, he will begin to mature at a slightly more rapid pace than his other Shoddy Enders.

But the things he discovers in the catacombs will slowly begin to unlock things in his mind that were passed down to him by his creator since knowledge from parent dragons is passed down to their offspring ina mystical way no one can understand. While he will make mistakes like all children/young adults do, he will begin to have flashbacks of things he never experienced. When he finally discovers what he is AND ACCEPTS IT, that's when the flood gates in his mind open up and the knowledge starts pouring out from all the cracks a crevices.

At least, that's what I can see happening.

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:10 am

I like it a lot. Perhaps Tiph can come up with a graphic, as RP decribed it, for the "birthmark" I too like the fact that it would not be generally seen. The location, over his heart, is perfect. His drawings may start to become more defined. Although he will still not YET understand what they mean. Perhaps Colleen will start saving them maybe after she starts to thrown them away, while cleaning his room?
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:20 am

I'm going to write it so that Colleen has saved ALL his drawings because she didn't have the heart to throw them away. And a little voice nagging her telling her she SHOULDN'T throw them away. She'll have them stashed in a safe place and one day see something that will make her pull them out and study them with the others of the Coven and Raj.

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:32 am

That's cool I like that idea better, was just throwing out and idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:21 am

Cool ideas. I like them.

I was actually thinking that the Coven suspects what Elija may be, which is why they are so accommodating, but they only know of the legend. They are not sure whether or not, 'The Man born of Dragon', is actually beneficial to the world.

Right now they are keeping Elija close, if only to keep an eye on him. If he turns out to be Evil, then they know that they must unfortunately destroy him. Of course, long before Elija grows, he may be in Baloc, so we'll just see how things go.

At the moment the Coven does not believe that any of the Dragon kind, are aware of Elija, but the Mermadon scout was troubling. They cannot be sure who he was indeed looking for.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 am

Oh... I keep on forgetting too, that Raj has purposefully traveled from the distant Land of the Tiann after their own protective Weir of Dragons drove off the invaders. Raj too may suspect something of Elija, because he has actually been sent west by the Tiann Dragons.

I was originally going to have Raj be able to speak a Dragon language, but this is not to down play Elija's ability. The Dragons, would no doubt speak a tongue that combined elements of there own speech with Tiannese. This was a language that Raj had to learn while he trained at the temple. He cannot read Dragon Runes, but he knows how to write and speak Tiannese, so anything of that nature that Elija finds he can help him with.

I am not precisely sure yet what mission the Dragons would have given Raj, but I am sure it will be revealed as the story rolls along.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:41 am

SA-WEET!

Looks like we've got quite a bit to chew on for this story now.

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:59 am

mphhmphmphmph (swollows) sorry I was always tought not to talke with my mouthful Very Happy Yes we do indeed.....and it is all sooooooo goooooooood ( he says in his best Andy Griffith voice) "ain't that right Opie!"
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:06 am

Dude....you're dating yourself with that reference.

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:27 pm

Laughing DUDE! Andy Griffith! REALLY? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:15 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:31 am

I was just wondering who all will Elija show the Doorway and the chamber to? I would assume Colleen, Marshal Kaleb and Raj,. Anyone else?
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:15 pm

That sounds about right. Elija is no doubt going to be protective of his find so he would probably only show it to those closest to him.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:54 am

Those were my thoughts, he would even be reluctant to show them it to the other Sloddy End Gang. Not out of any mistrust or disloyalty to them, but because something told him this was a powerful place, one of reverence, gaurded treasures and secret knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:06 am

Tiph, left it open for you to bring the Marshall and Collee into the outer chamber, before the gates open, through the door you found. once you are all there with Elija he will open the gates. Also Elija has no idea what the word mean and he probably won't tell anyone about hearing them.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:01 pm

Way to fill in the blanks Lac... now we can trace the map to Baloc. I am sure the map will reveal a great many other wondrous things. We should take our time discovering them and really build it up.

Payden will be returning... and his whole crew as well. A fresh new start!
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing Dreams   Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:05 pm

Thanks.... great Payden's retrurn will be interesting especially for Elija.
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